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| BBULL89 | Sep 6 2011, 07:36:27 PM Post #701 |
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Some more interviews with Dan Greenawalt. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2011/sep/06/forza-4-interview http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-9425-Gamescom-2011--Forza-4-Interview-%E2%80%93-Dan-Greenawalt-Talks-Cars.html Here are some highlights: Is Forza 4 Pushing the 360 to its limits?
What's your relationship like with manufacturers? I mean, I understand the marketing opportunities that Forza must represent to them, but do they appreciate the design?
How are car performance determined?
Have you done much work on Forza 4's damage modelling?
Are you concerned that not having weather effects and so on might be holding Forza back somewhat? Is it something that you're planning for the future or is it too difficult to apply with the level of visual fidelity?
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| hammer fhb | Sep 6 2011, 08:40:40 PM Post #702 |
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He obviously knows nothing about racing... |
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| BBULL89 | Sep 6 2011, 08:51:04 PM Post #703 |
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Nope sounds like he wants to make a game more than a simulation. |
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| BlackRuckus05 | Sep 6 2011, 09:09:46 PM Post #704 |
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Great... They're actually thinking that Gran Turismo is a pure simulation ![]() I also agree that they don't really seem to care alot about the actual racing... They're always talking about cars and cars and cars but never about racing... |
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| hammer fhb | Sep 6 2011, 09:16:57 PM Post #705 |
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I'm increasingly beginning to think Dan Greenawalt just gets horny over cars too much... Let's be honest. We don't go on Forza on a regular basis and think something like: "I want to drive a Lamborghini Reventon and feel the exciting vibes of the engine through every twist, bump and curve." I just wanna race in racing cars... |
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| V12 Matti Dude | Sep 6 2011, 09:28:21 PM Post #706 |
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Dan Greenawalt really does have no clue. It's called Forza Motorsport, it should be all about motorsport. Yes being able to paint, take photos, look at cars in great detail is cool, but these features shouldn't be replacing things which could make the racing better. It seems that as soon as Forza 2 was released they saw this massive community build up around the fact that cars could be painted and customised. But they were painted because people didn't want to race with a bland looking car, not because they love painting so much. I never expected weather to be in the game because I thought the xbox couldn't handle it. But the fact that Turn 10 could have implemented it but decided not to because they didn't feel it was important enough has annoyed me. |
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| BlackRuckus05 | Sep 6 2011, 09:37:17 PM Post #707 |
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I have to say it's really annoying when you see what they are gonna do with F1 2011, all these nice RACING features... ... |
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| BBULL89 | Sep 6 2011, 09:38:55 PM Post #708 |
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See I know what Turn 10 are doing. They are trying hard to "Gran Turismo 5-proof." See What they want to do is make a game that the "casual" gamer will want to keep in their collection. See GT 5 sold alot of copies then the causal gamer traded it back in a month later because of the lack of interesting content. Turn 10 has said this before and will say it again: They already have the sale of 95% of the hardcore fanbase. That may make people mad and angry but thats why they only focus on the "Painting", the "photography," and the interactive portions of the game in interviews and videos. They are trying to sale to the causal gamer. If the game was only about Motorsport we would end up with Gran Turismo 5 and we will all be angry. |
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| hammer fhb | Sep 6 2011, 09:45:30 PM Post #709 |
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Meh, I may end up leaving this game, there is so much more coming out which is more promising... |
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| Hug My Toad | Sep 7 2011, 12:33:38 AM Post #710 |
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bye bye hammer, enjoy your anime. |
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Career Starts: 16 2012 GT-AM Trophy 2014 Races: Mugello Ricky- "My throat is trolling me. Its like saying cool cough bro." | |
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| SoloRedDevil | Sep 7 2011, 12:50:41 AM Post #711 |
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This makes no sense?
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| ablougabla | Sep 7 2011, 03:12:45 AM Post #712 |
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I personally look forward to season 4 FLMS on one of the new tracks. Seems everyone is picking with forza 4, but turn 10 hasn't even revealed all of the features... we haven't even played it yet. |
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| Velox Midget | Sep 7 2011, 03:18:00 AM Post #713 |
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I may have to dust off Grid, at least the devs for Grid understood the "experience" side of the game that Dan wanks on about. There was TOD in there, sure the physics were lol-worthy but they understood many of the things that make a racing game good. If Turn10 care only about the "experience" why not put damn TOD etc in? How the hell is Autovista going to make a better game? Seriously, what the hell is with their obsession with that bloody Autovista? Yes the physics will be MASSIVELY improved (which is what will make me buy the game) and there are some incredible cars in the game, however, Turn10 have lost sight of what people want and what matters. The fact that they could have integrated new things in but didn't really riles me, that Autovista is more important to them that things which add to the racing experience is total poo-poo. Therein lies the problem, they've lost sight of what matters. I'm not just a grumpy whiner, I am looking forward to many aspects of Forza4, but there are some massive negatives too |
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| Y0SSARIANUK | Sep 7 2011, 03:37:13 AM Post #714 |
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Go Kings!
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That's hilariously stupid. Weather doesn't add to gameplay, but being able to walk around a virtual car does? What little faith I had has now been lost. I'll buy it anyway, but at least I will have no expectations. F1 2011 will be epic <3 Edited by ShiftyF1, Sep 7 2011, 03:17:34 PM.
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| SoloRedDevil | Sep 7 2011, 10:46:41 AM Post #715 |
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Turn 10 are aiming at casual users as well who "love cars" haha so autovista maybe good for them! But yeah I would have liked weather The game hasn't come out yet though so we shouldn't judge just yet.
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| ablougabla | Sep 7 2011, 11:18:54 AM Post #716 |
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Good physics and weather dont come easy apparently. Remember we're running on six year old software LOL ***hardware
Edited by ablougabla, Sep 7 2011, 09:24:53 PM.
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| Velox Midget | Sep 7 2011, 11:24:45 AM Post #717 |
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Hey I'm not saying it won't be a fantastically polished, fun, damn fine game. |
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| SoloRedDevil | Sep 7 2011, 12:32:44 PM Post #718 |
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Good point ablo! This is why Microsoft are planning the Xbox 720! (I think it's called) |
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| Velox Midget | Sep 7 2011, 12:48:26 PM Post #719 |
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But 1080 is all the rage with kids these days yo
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| Y0SSARIANUK | Sep 7 2011, 01:28:30 PM Post #720 |
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Go Kings!
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But it is easily possibly if they stopped going for 60FPS - which is unnescessary. |
![]() "And when you die the only kingdom you'll see is 2 foot wide and 6 foot deep" foREVer "The success becomes the sage. Scientists counsel on civil liberty; comedians and actresses lead political rallies; athletes tell us what brand of cigarettes to smoke." - Robert Leckie, A Helmet For My Pillow 'False is the vaunt of the victor, Empty our living pride. For those who fell there is no hell - Not for the brave who died.' - The Battle of Tenaru, August 21, 1942 - Robert Leckie 'Senna não morreu, porque os deuses não morrem' | |
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