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Topic Started: Apr 20 2011, 08:11:20 PM (118,288 Views)
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I said Kitty cat not a cheata on steroids!!!
But that was the standard setup for a leader board Mosler!!
And BTW it's Neallys fault that Xbox live is broken, he down loaded the Demo from some illegal website, But it had a virus in it which has now screwed over all of xbox live!!!
Every body thank Neal!!!
Edited by Born KIA, Oct 3 2011, 10:23:39 PM.
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Oct 3 2011, 10:31:46 PM
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Is that really why?!
Also, screw the sway bars. It's all in tyre pressure 23 psi ftw
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Oct 3 2011, 10:33:34 PM
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Could be!!!
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Oct 3 2011, 10:42:02 PM
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This game feels weird.... Almost like a NFS game......
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Oct 3 2011, 10:54:26 PM
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- VxR Dazza
- Oct 3 2011, 10:42:02 PM
This game feels weird.... Almost like a NFS game...... *SLAP*
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Oct 3 2011, 11:00:17 PM
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- VxR Dazza
- Oct 3 2011, 10:42:02 PM
This game feels weird.... Almost like a NFS game...... It's nothing really like a NFS game, first of all no porsche , and I like the demo and all but pass scores out of 5! Even draft scores out of 5!! Wth?!
Also MASSIVE understeer with every car, though it's much more realistic than Forza 3. I can't say it is completely as I don't drive... but seems to be better. The full game will probably be alot better than the demo as well.
"And BTW it's Neallys fault that Xbox live is broken, he down loaded the Demo from some illegal website, But it had a virus in it which has now screwed over all of xbox live!!!"
It might not be, but if it is, you couldn't wait until midnight yesterday?
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Oct 3 2011, 11:00:26 PM
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- VxR Dazza
- Oct 3 2011, 10:42:02 PM
This game feels weird.... Almost like a NFS game...... lol.
Are you really that stupid?
If it was an NFS game it would have Porsche...
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Oct 3 2011, 11:08:33 PM
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This game feels weird.... Almost like a NFS game......
lol. Are you really that stupid? If it was an NFS game it would have Porsche... lol. That's almost as funny as a guy on the forzamotorsport.net forums believing that NFS Shift Unleashed 2 was a Sim because EA said is was a Sim, and then he preceded to say that Forza 4 didn't feel real like Shift 2.
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- Oct 3 2011, 10:42:02 PM
This game feels weird.... Almost like a NFS game......
lol. Are you really that stupid? If it was an NFS game it would have Porsche...
lol. That's almost as funny as a guy on the forzamotorsport.net forums believing that NFS Shift Unleashed 2 was a Sim because EA said is was a Sim, and then he preceded to say that Forza 4 didn't feel real like Shift 2. I must see this
and proceed to laugh at him in great length
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Not sure what it is or if it's dangerous but I've only done it once and I thought Sesame Street was downstairs. [/b][/center][/big]
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Here it is on this page at the very bottom: http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/28/4823643/ShowThread.aspx
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Here's my 2c. Maybe I'll be ridiculed, maybe I won't - haha!
I love the old forza games, and will probably love the new one too, and I guess this post is more of a comparison more than anything but after all, isn't' that why different companies make different racing games? To compete, to go one better..etc
I've been playing a lot of NFS Unleashed 2. I love it. Its an awesome racing Sim. Then I get onto the Forza 4 demo that I've been hanging out for. Yes - I've pre ordered the collector edition.
Now, I'm no tech head, and I understand some level of 'rendering' but why oh why do companies release screenshots of games when the screenshot looks better than the real thing? Am I missing something? The screens always look smoother..
In game graphics for forza, to me the cars look awesome however I'm perhaps a little disappointed at the in-menu cars when using free look..etc, especially after seeing those before mentioned screenshots.
Handles very well, but it DRIVES differently, a lot differently than say, NFS U2. Is the difference here purely that NFS U2 is a RACING sim, where Forza 4 is a DRIVING sim?
NFS has awesome collisions, even the small ones the body work cripples..etc, but with Forza you just get the same looking scratch as you did in previous versions. When in err "Hood" view, you can see it flex in the wind in NFS, but not in Forza..
I love love love the engine braking noise in NFS. And the NIght Driving. The black n white effect when you crash and the screen becomes disoriented. But it lacks polish. There are bugs, and the uploaded screenshots look like sh*t. And theres no Ferrari, but then there's no Porsche in Forza.
Forza 4 will probably retain its pit stops in minimal effect whereas NFS has none which is odd for a racing sim.
And NFS has all the best race tracks in the world. I'm going to miss that in FM4.
I know I'm comparing demo to final product here, and I'll buy both games as long as they keep making them but oh how i wish someone would make a racing game with EVERYTHING in it lol
F1 2011 - I'm SO getting that too.
So forza the demo- looks good, cars look great (although some lines, like on the Cougar the racing stripe is a tad pixelated), drives well, but theres just not quite that sense of speed and racing you get from NFS U2.. perhaps it will be different in a racing car in Forza 4. And this rewind feature, yes yes I know the whole "must appeal to as many people as possible" mindset but why is there? Racing is amount making mistakes. About needing to be on the edge the WHOLE race, you slip off the track here n there but you can't rewind and go back. And if you crash - you crash. Try again next time. I can already hear you guys saying if you don't like it don't use it haha
So then I go back to my original question, am I looking at this wrong? Are they marketed as Forza = driving sim and NFS U2 = racing sim??
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Oct 4 2011, 12:02:27 AM
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I'm getting the tail out all the time? Most of my crashes are when I collide sideways with the wall on the final corner (Which is so annoying with penalty!) but its really fun! (Until you actually hit the thing coming towards your driver window ...)
I think perhaps part of the problem might be that we are all so used to how you had to drive on FM3 and it might just take some time to adapt to the new physics? Turn10 did say it might themselves, and they also said the cars do not have a dominating characteristic (oversteer/understeer) and there is also imput from the way you drive them...
Or maybe its just that you are expecting the same kind of lateral grip as FM3 had, which just isn't there, and therefore the cars cannot carry so much speed in the corners?
I dunno, just ideas I had then... Personally I am extremely happy and excited with the physics and I can't wait to dig my teeth into some GT cars!
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Oct 4 2011, 12:04:30 AM
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Is anyone else bothered by the incorrect rear wheels, or am I just crazy?

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Oct 4 2011, 12:08:42 AM
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Lol. I can assure you the early 'illegal' downloads had nothing to do with Xbox Live being down.
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Oct 4 2011, 12:12:56 AM
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Or maybe its just that you are expecting the same kind of lateral grip as FM3 had, which just isn't there, and therefore the cars cannot carry so much speed in the corners?
This.
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Oct 4 2011, 12:14:20 AM
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Oh my, I thought the top picture was the real one initially as I only glanced at them both!
Are you sure it isn't just different shutter speeds? Maybe its because I'm into that stuff, but the fact that the aero is completely wrong annoys me more 
Edit - the RL one is in low drag config, you need a RL photo from sebring really
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This is beautiful!!!
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I came home after a relatively typical, mundane day. No, nothing special nor unusual happened on this day. I saw a bus nearly hit a car... but I remained uninterested. I had seen it all before, all too many times, all too many places.
No, there was nothing interesting to report... and then I stepped on the remote to my home entertainment system by accident. I suppose my dog had knocked it on the floor while I was gone... and up until that point, this was probably the most interesting, unusual event of the day. But I was rather thirsty at the time so I walked off to get a glass of tea, but as I passed back by, I saw it there.
"Forza Motorsport 4 - Get the demo, plus" ...it doesn't really matter what else it said. Only 2 things were of importance here. Forza. Demo.
I downloaded it immediately. It didn't take long. My internet service level gives me enough horsepower to devour gigabytes of data in minutes. No more than 15 minutes after my wait began, it ended, and I was ready.
I fired it up, picked my poison, and waited for the race to begin. I saw the staging of the race as I sat there surrounded by the sound of engines roaring to be unleashed... and then it ended.
What is this? What had happened?
Certainly I had began the race, and certainly it had ended; I finished first place. But... where was my car? Was I robbed? Oh... it was... just a game?
I felt a little like I had missed a small gap of time. I felt like the reason I crawled around making measurements when I was setting up my home theater had finally proven to have a purpose for something other than a few select Blu-Rays. I had, if only for a brief moment, been sucked out of reality into the driver's seat of a Ferrari 458 Italia, and I loved it.
A few more races yielded the same experience... it was only out of an increased effort in focusing on the details of things that I gained more knowledge of what was happening while I was lost in this altered reality. And it was then I began to learn my car.
She wasn't just a car, in just a game; she wanted to be driven like she was mine. When I hurt her, she got angry. I learned this when I pushed her without consideration or acknowledgement of her strength as she began to kick wildly in anger to teach me a lesson. I thought I was going to lose her, and then... she forgave me and yielded to me once again. As our fight ended, we began to slide. We slid for what seemed like endless moments, and we decided that we would; if only for this moment, be together. We took acknowledgement of our surroundings, and we realized that at the moment our perfection was being threatened. We were 4th place, and to us, this was wrong.
In one corner we had faught, forgiven one another, and forged a relationship... if only for one moment, if only for one race. Not only were we losing, we had lost sight of the 3rd place car. This was wrong because to us the car in third place was just... a car. We were arrogant. We were angry. We were the best. We were together, and we were not to be beaten by just a car without having a say in it. And after that, we began to chase.
The 3rd place car proved to be nothing more than what we thought. Just a car. A scrub in the way of our perfect ending. A scrub... who feared the daunting presence of a small curve more than it should have. We had no fear. We had trust. Mere seconds after we faught, we were chasing a new opponent.
2nd place proved more formidable. Slicing through curves 3rd place found frightening as if they were nothing. Like us, 2nd place was "perfect." But unlike us, 2nd place was... too perfect. Too controlled, too tamed... too unwilling to risk perfection on probable mistakes. On a single turn we accelerated where we should have braked... we would either meet the wall and meet our end, or began pursuit of our final opponent. What was "perfect" this time was flawed... our "mistake" proved to be the true perfection. After 1st place, we chased.
The task seemed near impossible. 1st place was an opponent unlike the other two. First place was perfect, but willing to make mistakes to keep it that way. First place did not know fear of meeting the wall so great as to prevent its ability to consider scorching it with the heat of its exhaust. 1st place appeared to have no weakness... and if it did we certainly couldn't find one. But still, all of a sudden, we began to gain on it.
What had happened... that is what we wondered as we began nearing a once invisible opponent. Had it wrecked? Had it gained a sense of fear and become overly cautious? Had it... wait... why did it matter? We were the best, and we knew it to be so. Why we were the best was irrelevant so long as we had each other. So we took what we earned and ate up every bit of road the misfortune of 1st place had spared. The opponent we once were too far away to see was soon in our sights, and we knew it was time.
Through multiple turns we seemingly no longer were gaining ground, yet still not losing any. It moved as we moved, it feared as we feared (or rather, as we lacked)... it was good. It would not give us a flaw to use it against it... But it would give us a window where we had a choice to make.
The choice was simple... we could choose to pass then and hope not to pay for the quickly approaching consequences after. Or we could wait, maintain position, and be sure to still have a chance to win, though room for hope was shrinking as we approached the finish line.
She had made her position clear... she was willing to do as I decided that we should. And perhaps it was this that led to what happened.
We finished 2nd.
I was unwilling to risk losing her again as I risked earlier without consideration for the sake of MAYBE coming out ahead in the end. I instead chose to maintain our position and maintain her beauty as we chose the less dangerous route outside of the turn. At first I was ashamed of this... but then I realized that she was still with me.
I hadn't lost her, and I hadn't hurt her. We had done so much with our brief moments together, even if they had to end, and even if we did not finish 1st. I could have blamed the inability of the other cars to move as we could in the beginning which slowed us down shortly... but I would not. I could have blamed the fear of some of the cars driving comfortably side by side for getting in our way, but I did not. Instead... I... she... we were happy with what we had done.
We knew that we'd remember the things we had accomplished and not dwell on the maybe that could have gone otherwise. We instead would focus on what had happened and what we certainly had done. Besides... we hadn't lost to a scrub with too much fear to handle the road, nor had we lost to one too afraid of risking absolute perfection to commit mistakes. We lost to a spirited MP4-12C that simply took advantage of its position to force us to make a choice that, due to its standing, it simply did not have to make.
We were the best before, and we still were. Because we knew that we had each other, and we knew our time would come again.
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Oct 4 2011, 12:53:02 AM
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Here iare 2 cool new type of races that I just found out.
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a 1 on 1 race down Mt. Fuji with Traffic to dodge and weave in and out of, or the Multi class races where you have 6 cars in one class and 6 in another and you have to come top of your class.
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Oct 4 2011, 01:12:24 AM
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This is beautiful!!! - Quote:
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I came home after a relatively typical, mundane day. No, nothing special nor unusual happened on this day. I saw a bus nearly hit a car... but I remained uninterested. I had seen it all before, all too many times, all too many places.
No, there was nothing interesting to report... and then I stepped on the remote to my home entertainment system by accident. I suppose my dog had knocked it on the floor while I was gone... and up until that point, this was probably the most interesting, unusual event of the day. But I was rather thirsty at the time so I walked off to get a glass of tea, but as I passed back by, I saw it there.
"Forza Motorsport 4 - Get the demo, plus" ...it doesn't really matter what else it said. Only 2 things were of importance here. Forza. Demo.
I downloaded it immediately. It didn't take long. My internet service level gives me enough horsepower to devour gigabytes of data in minutes. No more than 15 minutes after my wait began, it ended, and I was ready.
I fired it up, picked my poison, and waited for the race to begin. I saw the staging of the race as I sat there surrounded by the sound of engines roaring to be unleashed... and then it ended.
What is this? What had happened?
Certainly I had began the race, and certainly it had ended; I finished first place. But... where was my car? Was I robbed? Oh... it was... just a game?
I felt a little like I had missed a small gap of time. I felt like the reason I crawled around making measurements when I was setting up my home theater had finally proven to have a purpose for something other than a few select Blu-Rays. I had, if only for a brief moment, been sucked out of reality into the driver's seat of a Ferrari 458 Italia, and I loved it.
A few more races yielded the same experience... it was only out of an increased effort in focusing on the details of things that I gained more knowledge of what was happening while I was lost in this altered reality. And it was then I began to learn my car.
She wasn't just a car, in just a game; she wanted to be driven like she was mine. When I hurt her, she got angry. I learned this when I pushed her without consideration or acknowledgement of her strength as she began to kick wildly in anger to teach me a lesson. I thought I was going to lose her, and then... she forgave me and yielded to me once again. As our fight ended, we began to slide. We slid for what seemed like endless moments, and we decided that we would; if only for this moment, be together. We took acknowledgement of our surroundings, and we realized that at the moment our perfection was being threatened. We were 4th place, and to us, this was wrong.
In one corner we had faught, forgiven one another, and forged a relationship... if only for one moment, if only for one race. Not only were we losing, we had lost sight of the 3rd place car. This was wrong because to us the car in third place was just... a car. We were arrogant. We were angry. We were the best. We were together, and we were not to be beaten by just a car without having a say in it. And after that, we began to chase.
The 3rd place car proved to be nothing more than what we thought. Just a car. A scrub in the way of our perfect ending. A scrub... who feared the daunting presence of a small curve more than it should have. We had no fear. We had trust. Mere seconds after we faught, we were chasing a new opponent.
2nd place proved more formidable. Slicing through curves 3rd place found frightening as if they were nothing. Like us, 2nd place was "perfect." But unlike us, 2nd place was... too perfect. Too controlled, too tamed... too unwilling to risk perfection on probable mistakes. On a single turn we accelerated where we should have braked... we would either meet the wall and meet our end, or began pursuit of our final opponent. What was "perfect" this time was flawed... our "mistake" proved to be the true perfection. After 1st place, we chased.
The task seemed near impossible. 1st place was an opponent unlike the other two. First place was perfect, but willing to make mistakes to keep it that way. First place did not know fear of meeting the wall so great as to prevent its ability to consider scorching it with the heat of its exhaust. 1st place appeared to have no weakness... and if it did we certainly couldn't find one. But still, all of a sudden, we began to gain on it.
What had happened... that is what we wondered as we began nearing a once invisible opponent. Had it wrecked? Had it gained a sense of fear and become overly cautious? Had it... wait... why did it matter? We were the best, and we knew it to be so. Why we were the best was irrelevant so long as we had each other. So we took what we earned and ate up every bit of road the misfortune of 1st place had spared. The opponent we once were too far away to see was soon in our sights, and we knew it was time.
Through multiple turns we seemingly no longer were gaining ground, yet still not losing any. It moved as we moved, it feared as we feared (or rather, as we lacked)... it was good. It would not give us a flaw to use it against it... But it would give us a window where we had a choice to make.
The choice was simple... we could choose to pass then and hope not to pay for the quickly approaching consequences after. Or we could wait, maintain position, and be sure to still have a chance to win, though room for hope was shrinking as we approached the finish line.
She had made her position clear... she was willing to do as I decided that we should. And perhaps it was this that led to what happened.
We finished 2nd.
I was unwilling to risk losing her again as I risked earlier without consideration for the sake of MAYBE coming out ahead in the end. I instead chose to maintain our position and maintain her beauty as we chose the less dangerous route outside of the turn. At first I was ashamed of this... but then I realized that she was still with me.
I hadn't lost her, and I hadn't hurt her. We had done so much with our brief moments together, even if they had to end, and even if we did not finish 1st. I could have blamed the inability of the other cars to move as we could in the beginning which slowed us down shortly... but I would not. I could have blamed the fear of some of the cars driving comfortably side by side for getting in our way, but I did not. Instead... I... she... we were happy with what we had done.
We knew that we'd remember the things we had accomplished and not dwell on the maybe that could have gone otherwise. We instead would focus on what had happened and what we certainly had done. Besides... we hadn't lost to a scrub with too much fear to handle the road, nor had we lost to one too afraid of risking absolute perfection to commit mistakes. We lost to a spirited MP4-12C that simply took advantage of its position to force us to make a choice that, due to its standing, it simply did not have to make.
We were the best before, and we still were. Because we knew that we had each other, and we knew our time would come again.
Wow... And this was done in only 2 laps !?
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