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Topic Started: Apr 20 2011, 08:11:20 PM (118,257 Views)
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anybody know where i could find the stats on the r15 ++
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They are giving codes away. I've only found info on the PI right now have not found the stats yet.
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Also ruckus can I point out that VIR isn't a perfect track for testing the overall characteristics of a car, for example Turn 10 need to include in the PI stats for top speed and stuff as well, something completely irrelevant at VIR...

And I just want to point out that it was a sarcastic joke, if you look carefully the Peugeot actually has a slightly higher PI.

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The PI in game is determined by a Perfect AI driver who just runs the perfect lines though turns. They ran a car on a "Test Track" that incorporates many different kinds of turns and straights. They haven't said what the length is but they did say that the track for Forza 3 was alot like Sliverstone. Also the Driver in Forza 3 didn't get on the gas early enough with AWD cars like many people would do in game so the driver lowered the PI because he wasn't using the traction that the car had.
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I just won a code for the pack. So i will answer questions when I get back home 20 hours from now.
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Also ruckus can I point out that VIR isn't a perfect track for testing the overall characteristics of a car, for example Turn 10 need to include in the PI stats for top speed and stuff as well, something completely irrelevant at VIR...

And I just want to point out that it was a sarcastic joke, if you look carefully the Peugeot actually has a slightly higher PI.
I know it was sarcastic...

And VIR is a very good test track by the way... You got tight corners, long straights, twisties, elevation changes... I don't reckon you ever did a lap there ? (Virtually, of course)

And I don't think a 10mph higher top speed will give a car 50 PI points more ;)
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yeah but considering there are quite a few ovals on FM4 and it isn't just corners... Perhaps a 5mph top speed advantage would have a really big effect?

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Wait, is it sarcasm again ? :|
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So you're saying basically that a specific car, albeit being up to 5 seconds slower on a ~2 minutes track rounding up about every possible kind of turns and such than another car in real life, will be faster (on a track) than this other car in-game because it has a top speed 10mph higher ?
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What he is saying is that no one here is a coder, and no one here can pretend to know exactly how the PI is worked out, so what is the point in aruging about it?

(That's not actually what he is saying, but still...)
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found a vid of a guy who won a code
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What he is saying is that no one here is a coder, and no one here can pretend to know exactly how the PI is worked out, so what is the point in aruging about it?

(That's not actually what he is saying, but still...)
What I'm complaining about is the fact that the PI system is just plain wrong, nothing else...

How they worked it out is irrelevant...
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No what I am saying is that it isn't faster in the game on a track similar to VIR, but if you added the laptime around 3 different tracks including an oval and a drag strip maybe it is?

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It doesn't make sense though ! And even there, I don't think that a 05' Gallardo or an Audi R8 V10 is faster (maybe a bit on a flatout oval) than let's say (I expect you to say something) a Corvette Z06...

We should ask Turn 10 !
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Though I won't voice my opinions on Corvettes, they're not fit to share in the presence of a big Vette fan, I will say that the R8 V10 is most likely rated higher due to it's AWD system. Remember Turn 10 changed AWD swaps and cars to give and have higher PIs to prevent leaderboard noobs using them, which is likely why the R8 V10 has a PI that high.

As for the R15++, I dunno, but I hope it at least handles better than the standard R15, that thing is a twitchy son of a gun in FM4.
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What he is saying is that no one here is a coder, and no one here can pretend to know exactly how the PI is worked out, so what is the point in aruging about it?

(That's not actually what he is saying, but still...)
What I'm complaining about is the fact that the PI system is just plain wrong, nothing else...

How they worked it out is irrelevant...
But clearly it is correct based on the method they used to work it out. The fact that hasn't nescessarily translated into your idea of what is correct isn't the point - the point is that it is correct for the way it was calculated. If you can code a better way of working it out, I'm sure they'd love to know ;)
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I'm starting to think if Turn 10 went by the system Ruckus has, the Corvettes would all be X999, and everything else would be F100. :P
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