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Topic Started: Apr 20 2011, 08:11:20 PM (118,256 Views)
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They should make the PI system so it reflects how the cars compare to eachother on the track, that is all...
Edited by BlackRuckus05, Oct 30 2011, 08:24:19 PM.
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I'm starting to think Carlsons just owned Ruckus with a single line.... :|
"I did what I did for the good of the realm." "The realm? Do you know what the realm is? It's the thousand blades of Aegon's enemies, a story we agreed to tell each other over and over until we forget that it's a lie." "But what do we have left once we abandon the lie? Chaos? A gaping pit waiting to swallow us all?" "Chaos isn't a pit, it's a ladder. Many who have tried to climb it fail, never get to try again. The fall breaks them. Some are given a chance to climb, but they refuse, they cling to the realm. For the gods, for love. Illusions, only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."
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And why is that ?

I'm sure that if I was a Ferrari fan nobody would try to put me down so much... And most of the time you don't even give good reasons for that, as when you say Porsches are supped up Beatles...

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Hey! The amount of crap I have to put up with absolutely embarrasses what you are currently being subjected to. On these forums I think I am the only Ferrari fan, apart from perhaps BONRENIGMA who is a 'Nando's fan.

You just have to take it all in your stride and have a quiet laugh to yourself every time Corvette wins something. Like I do every time the Corvettes hit each other or something else, you just need to wait and laugh next time a Ferrari catches fire. But don't rub it in everybody else's faces because it just makes you as bad as the next guy.

I only say Porsche's are beetles because they are and it winds Jonny up a little bit, its more of a private joke using very public knowledge than a blatant insult. Anyway, I actually very much like Porsche, if Ferrari weren't there then I probably would back the Porsches...

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Hey! The amount of crap I have to put up with absolutely embarrasses what you are currently being subjected to. On these forums I think I am the only Ferrari fan, apart from perhaps BONRENIGMA who is a 'Nando's fan.

You just have to take it all in your stride and have a quiet laugh to yourself every time Corvette wins something. Like I do every time the Corvettes hit each other or something else, you just need to wait and laugh next time a Ferrari catches fire. But don't rub it in everybody else's faces because it just makes you as bad as the next guy.
Woop, a mention B-)

I do love it when the Corvette's hit each other, but they're not the only team that does it. BMW have done it once or twice this year too (Mid-Ohio for example) :(

It just really annoys me when Chevrolet hit most other cars though, they've hit the BMW's, the Porsches, the Ferrari's..


but that wasn't the point you were trying to make, carry on :D
"I did what I did for the good of the realm." "The realm? Do you know what the realm is? It's the thousand blades of Aegon's enemies, a story we agreed to tell each other over and over until we forget that it's a lie." "But what do we have left once we abandon the lie? Chaos? A gaping pit waiting to swallow us all?" "Chaos isn't a pit, it's a ladder. Many who have tried to climb it fail, never get to try again. The fall breaks them. Some are given a chance to climb, but they refuse, they cling to the realm. For the gods, for love. Illusions, only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."
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Is the New 458 going to get it's own class? Y or Z
Cos there is no way that if the Corvette is X999 the Ferrari would be lower!!!
An engine wrapped in plastic Carrier bags Vs a Ferrari, come on!!
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Born that probably doesn't help?

And yes Nealio, pretty much the only reason I have any problem with Corvette is because they hit everything and then they feel they are justified enough to claim everybody else hits them.

And the other reason is when Corvette fanboys claim their car is more advanced than other cars - I joke that the 911 is like 50 years old or whatever, but the Corvette... It has technology from the Middle Ages, before America was even discovered!

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Born that probably doesn't help?

And yes Nealio, pretty much the only reason I have any problem with Corvette is because they hit everything and then they feel they are justified enough to claim everybody else hits them.

And the other reason is when Corvette fanboys claim their car is more advanced than other cars - I joke that the 911 is like 50 years old or whatever, but the Corvette... It has technology from the Middle Ages, before America was even discovered!
Plastic is pretty modern ;)
Edited by Born KIA, Oct 31 2011, 01:45:49 AM.
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You know Socks, the Gallardo is far better than you give it credit for. Oh and AWD is awesome, just ask some bloke called Loeb
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Why not ask Ken Block? Master of control in an AWD car if you ask me.. just can't put that control to good use on a rally stage like Sebastien Loeb can. ;)
"I did what I did for the good of the realm." "The realm? Do you know what the realm is? It's the thousand blades of Aegon's enemies, a story we agreed to tell each other over and over until we forget that it's a lie." "But what do we have left once we abandon the lie? Chaos? A gaping pit waiting to swallow us all?" "Chaos isn't a pit, it's a ladder. Many who have tried to climb it fail, never get to try again. The fall breaks them. Some are given a chance to climb, but they refuse, they cling to the realm. For the gods, for love. Illusions, only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."
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Lol who? Master of money not talent? A man who got his behind thrashed when he competed in the New Zealand Rally Championship and crashes over and over and over again? Hard to ask a guy a question when he's in a wrecked car >.<
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XD I covered that aspect - "Master of control in an AWD car if you ask me.. just can't put that control to good use on a rally stage"
"I did what I did for the good of the realm." "The realm? Do you know what the realm is? It's the thousand blades of Aegon's enemies, a story we agreed to tell each other over and over until we forget that it's a lie." "But what do we have left once we abandon the lie? Chaos? A gaping pit waiting to swallow us all?" "Chaos isn't a pit, it's a ladder. Many who have tried to climb it fail, never get to try again. The fall breaks them. Some are given a chance to climb, but they refuse, they cling to the realm. For the gods, for love. Illusions, only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."
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I know, couldn't resist having my own dig too though lol
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Here are the stats the left side is the regular R15 and the right side R15++

PI: 995 - 981
Speed: 9.3 - 9.3
Handling: 9.8 - 9.8
Accel: 9.8 - 9.7
Launch: 8.7 - 8.6
Breaking: 9.7 - 9.7
HP: 629 - 550
Torque: 820 lb-ft - 700 lb-ft
Weight: 2050 lbs - 2050 lbs
DISPL: 5.5 L - 5.5 L

Looks like the only reason why the PI is lower is because of the lower Horsepower and lower Torque.

The F458

Speed: 7.0
Handling: 7.7
Accel: 9.1
Launch: 8.6
Braking: 7.8
HP: 465
Torque: 383 LB-FT
Weight: 2,775 LBS
DISPL: 4.5 L
Front Aero: Min: 149 - Max: 248
Rear Aero: Min: 281 - Max: 468
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Front Aero: Min: 149 - Max: 248
Rear Aero: Min: 281 - Max: 468
Somebody at Turn10 is going to die tonight and its not going to be pretty :@


Another 2 years with the least aero to go with the last 2 years with the least aero of the top 4 cars in GT. Splendid.


I still :wub: this car majorly though, and I look forward to racing with it :)
Edited by V12 RIOT, Oct 31 2011, 02:28:02 AM.

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Its just a little lower than the F430GT. Think about this though. Here are the stock tire sizes.

300/35-18
315/40-18

Way better than the F430GT.

Also this car is lovely to drive.
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Of course its lovely to drive... But you can't say its tyre sizes without mentioning its mass... There is a rule in the LM regs that you can add an extra 2 inches for 50kg or something along those lines.

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So the ++ is essentially lower PI because it's horsepower is limited by 2011 regs, as opposed to the 2009 regs for the old R15. Wonder if this means the new 908 is down the road in DLC?
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I want the 458....
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Well I just bought the ++ and it feels just as fast if not faster than the Aston Martin. It handles very nicely, but has some oversteer in stock forum. I wouldn't know what to say since I don't normally drive P1's.
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