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Heel and Toe in Forza 3, mandatory ?; Let's see...
Topic Started: Apr 24 2011, 05:56:21 PM (2,386 Views)
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YES !

I was doing a championship race this morning and after watching the replay, I found out that my friend was struggling a bit on downshifts, it looks like his differential was locking...

So I adjusted my rig for "One-foot" driving, adjusted the controls to use the clutch and tested it...

Well, I concluded that yes, you have to rev the engine on downshift !

I also tested if I was faster with this, I also found out that YES !

Our championship is a 80's DTM (Touring car) recreation, we have special builds for balancing purpose (We also have driver's balancing builds) and I use the BMW E30...

At the Sunset Peninsula's race, I was doing low 1:34's/high 1:33's... Without clutch...

With the clutch, I did on my first lap with not even 10min of practice high 1:33...

I continued testing I finally did really low 1:33... A perfect lap would led me to a high (Mabe mid if I am crazy enough) 1:32...

So that's AT LEAST 0.5 second quicker a lap...

Braking is also MUCH better...

So yeah, hope someone will learn something by reading this :D
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If only I had a wheel :(
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hammer fhb
Apr 24 2011, 06:51:17 PM
If only I had a wheel :(
Guess who does? ;)
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We all know that... ¬_¬

:'(
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I do this with a controller learnt it in FM2 :)
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Semi Erect.
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Yeah, tried it first with the controller, no problem getting it right... It's just that I can't drive anymore with it XD

And since I found a way to make that work on my wheel, well, screw you controller ! :D
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Isn't the whole "toe 'n' heel" technique only really worthwhile in RWD cars? :S
Edited by HDi Sarrazin 8x, Apr 24 2011, 09:31:36 PM.
"I did what I did for the good of the realm." "The realm? Do you know what the realm is? It's the thousand blades of Aegon's enemies, a story we agreed to tell each other over and over until we forget that it's a lie." "But what do we have left once we abandon the lie? Chaos? A gaping pit waiting to swallow us all?" "Chaos isn't a pit, it's a ladder. Many who have tried to climb it fail, never get to try again. The fall breaks them. Some are given a chance to climb, but they refuse, they cling to the realm. For the gods, for love. Illusions, only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."
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NO !

On FWD you lock the front wheels...

On AWD, I reckon you lock all wheels, I'm not sure though...
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It's rare I ever lock the fronts on FWD cars though. I've only ever struggled with brakes on RWD cars. XD
"I did what I did for the good of the realm." "The realm? Do you know what the realm is? It's the thousand blades of Aegon's enemies, a story we agreed to tell each other over and over until we forget that it's a lie." "But what do we have left once we abandon the lie? Chaos? A gaping pit waiting to swallow us all?" "Chaos isn't a pit, it's a ladder. Many who have tried to climb it fail, never get to try again. The fall breaks them. Some are given a chance to climb, but they refuse, they cling to the realm. For the gods, for love. Illusions, only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."
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But in Forza it is more permissive than in Real Life or in PC Racing Sims...

So you can still get away with no doing it but you'll be slower :)
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All this talk of FWD makes me want to play Race Pro and take out the Honda Accord or Peugeot 407 and do some laps around Estoril, Monza & Anderstorp. :D
"I did what I did for the good of the realm." "The realm? Do you know what the realm is? It's the thousand blades of Aegon's enemies, a story we agreed to tell each other over and over until we forget that it's a lie." "But what do we have left once we abandon the lie? Chaos? A gaping pit waiting to swallow us all?" "Chaos isn't a pit, it's a ladder. Many who have tried to climb it fail, never get to try again. The fall breaks them. Some are given a chance to climb, but they refuse, they cling to the realm. For the gods, for love. Illusions, only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."
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Lol XD

I don't really like Race Pro though, looks all dead... Physic isn't great too... Still better than most racing games but it feels strange sometimes...

Force Feedback is also inexistant :S
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I remember in an online lobby once, the top 8 drivers at Brands Hatch qualified within a second! XD

Times like those made me realise the fun I was about to have in a race. :P
"I did what I did for the good of the realm." "The realm? Do you know what the realm is? It's the thousand blades of Aegon's enemies, a story we agreed to tell each other over and over until we forget that it's a lie." "But what do we have left once we abandon the lie? Chaos? A gaping pit waiting to swallow us all?" "Chaos isn't a pit, it's a ladder. Many who have tried to climb it fail, never get to try again. The fall breaks them. Some are given a chance to climb, but they refuse, they cling to the realm. For the gods, for love. Illusions, only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."
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Last time I checked, no one was playing XD
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I'm going back two years ago, when it was struggling to survive. :'(
"I did what I did for the good of the realm." "The realm? Do you know what the realm is? It's the thousand blades of Aegon's enemies, a story we agreed to tell each other over and over until we forget that it's a lie." "But what do we have left once we abandon the lie? Chaos? A gaping pit waiting to swallow us all?" "Chaos isn't a pit, it's a ladder. Many who have tried to climb it fail, never get to try again. The fall breaks them. Some are given a chance to climb, but they refuse, they cling to the realm. For the gods, for love. Illusions, only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."
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Hehe :D

I have no hope anyway in a proper racing sim on consoles so...
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There was some rumors going around that Simbin were going to make Race Pro 2, but I've heard nothing about that in a long time. :S
Edited by HDi Sarrazin 8x, Apr 24 2011, 10:04:04 PM.
"I did what I did for the good of the realm." "The realm? Do you know what the realm is? It's the thousand blades of Aegon's enemies, a story we agreed to tell each other over and over until we forget that it's a lie." "But what do we have left once we abandon the lie? Chaos? A gaping pit waiting to swallow us all?" "Chaos isn't a pit, it's a ladder. Many who have tried to climb it fail, never get to try again. The fall breaks them. Some are given a chance to climb, but they refuse, they cling to the realm. For the gods, for love. Illusions, only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."
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There was suppose to be a GTR coming on consoles but it was cancelled...
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Whyyyyyyyyyy Simbin, whyyyyyyyyyyyyy cancel it?! D:
"I did what I did for the good of the realm." "The realm? Do you know what the realm is? It's the thousand blades of Aegon's enemies, a story we agreed to tell each other over and over until we forget that it's a lie." "But what do we have left once we abandon the lie? Chaos? A gaping pit waiting to swallow us all?" "Chaos isn't a pit, it's a ladder. Many who have tried to climb it fail, never get to try again. The fall breaks them. Some are given a chance to climb, but they refuse, they cling to the realm. For the gods, for love. Illusions, only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is."
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Because they just cannot do a proper sim on consoles... Too much calculations and everything :)
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