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Community Discussion - The Future of the FLMS; Please read and respond.
Topic Started: Jul 18 2014, 10:32:24 PM (14,472 Views)
Jonny
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Hi guys.

I'm sure it hasn't escaped everyone's attention that the numbers participating in FLMS events has been steadily declining over the past few months. I've been looking around, and other FM4 leagues appear to be suffering similarly, although perhaps not to the same extent as here. The FLMS has always been a niche series, not everyone's cup of tea, and therefore has never really attracted the colossal numbers of other FM leagues. However, I feel that we are now at a crossroads.

With the arrival of Xbox One and FM5, the entire FM community was really split in two. After looking at FM5, we felt at the time that it wasn't a viable option for this series. So we stuck with FM4. But it seems that more and more are switching, or moving away from FM altogether. Anyway, the purpose of this thread is to gauge the community's thoughts on what we should do for the future of the series. I'll give you my thoughts...

The way I see it, there are three options.

1. Move to FM5 - I know there are some who think this the best option. There definitely seems to be a lot more people playing it not compared to the start of the year. But, in my view, the game is still massively flawed and obviously unfinished. There's hardly any prototypes or GT cars, so we'd end up with a prototype class of R18s and 908s, and GT class of Ferrari, Viper and Corvette (unless we built them from road cars). There is a smaller selection of tracks. The penalty system is a joke, and totally open to abuse, with very little we can do to police it. And then there's the community platform, which is such a big step backwards over FM4, its ridiculous. I mean, no gifting? That's fundamental.

2. Move to Project CARS - I definitely think this game is worth having a serious look at. We won't know until we play it for ourselves whether its suitable for the series. But it definitely looks promising.

3. Stick with FM4 - I still think its the most suitable platform currently available to us. But I wouldn't be posting this if it wasn't without problems. And that problem is the numbers obviously.

I'm trying to keep the current season going until the end. But I'm thinking that we should also look at setting up a mini series on FM5. Start it in about a months time and run maybe a six race series on the American tracks or something. I don't know exactly what format it would take yet, I'm open to ideas and suggestions. I would also need people to help me with it. I won't be able to run it on my own.

So yeah, please post below with your own thoughts on what you think should be done, or anything else relevant.

Thanks.
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Beboladea
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Haha, dont mind me. I'm just being a bit silly! :P
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The community designed P2 for Project Cars is actually a Diesel... LOL WUT?

Did they forget that diesel engines aren't eligible for the P2 class? lol
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What about the Mazda thingys in TUSC?
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The Mazda Skyactive? That is Prototype class or P1. It's not in the PC class
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The Mazda Skyactive? That is Prototype class or P1. It's not in the PC class
you call this a p1

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Well it's in the prototype class, and it's an experimental car much like the delta wing so could you blame me for thinking it's a prototype? It's still a "work in progress" as Mazda puts it so it could possibly run P1. It's in prototype category of Tudor too. That's what also makes it hard to distinguish
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Not really, considering the Tudor/TUSC "Prototype" class is for European style LMP2 cars and Daytona Prototypes, of which the Mazda is the former. Also the only real "experimental" part is the diesel engine, the car itself is just a rebadged Lola B12/80 chassis and body.
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Then diesel must be ok with TUSC for P2 then since "technically" it's not called prototype 2 in their terms
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Then diesel must be ok with TUSC for P2 then since "technically" it's not called prototype 2 in their terms
Edited by Xprimary123X, Aug 2 2014, 02:21:30 AM.
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Yeah the Mazda is, But it wouldn't be eligible to run in ELMS, AsLMS, Or WEC with the diesel engine. Not allowed under ACO rules.

I don't class TUSC as anything now because its sugar NASCAR bugs bunny.
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I'm moving over to PC almost permanently by the end of the year. I also bought Assetto Corsa for 15 quid :)

Project Cars does sound amazing to be fair. Forza 5 has some good bits like repairable aero but it's obvious that we're not their target market. They target all the retards who like JDM Datsun missiles that would be better off on a dedicated game for that market...oh wait Horizon. So why dafuq Forza, you're called Motorsport yet you seem to have shunned the real fans! Wankers.

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The project car GT class looks great for next year! I would love to run in a Mercedes, Mclaren, or "Porsche" for next season! It looks like a very viable source for a series like FLMS
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Sad part is that Project CARS has no Viper. :'(
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That and no Corvette either :( which sucks
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another thing that is catching alot of people out is most of the footage on youtube is on PC
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What classes would we run if we used project cars as the future of FLMS. Just P1 and GTE?
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P1, P2 and GT3/GTD/GTC/Whatever you wanna call it would be the viable classes, Project CARS at the moment doesn't really have enough in the way of GT2/GTLM cars to make a GTE class possible, unless we just ran GT3-spec cars as a GTE class or something of that nature.
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Suprised no one suggested that we move to rFactor 2. Reason being is the Endurance Racing X mod.
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