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Community Discussion - The Future of the FLMS; Please read and respond.
Topic Started: Jul 18 2014, 10:32:24 PM (14,471 Views)
Jonny
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Hi guys.

I'm sure it hasn't escaped everyone's attention that the numbers participating in FLMS events has been steadily declining over the past few months. I've been looking around, and other FM4 leagues appear to be suffering similarly, although perhaps not to the same extent as here. The FLMS has always been a niche series, not everyone's cup of tea, and therefore has never really attracted the colossal numbers of other FM leagues. However, I feel that we are now at a crossroads.

With the arrival of Xbox One and FM5, the entire FM community was really split in two. After looking at FM5, we felt at the time that it wasn't a viable option for this series. So we stuck with FM4. But it seems that more and more are switching, or moving away from FM altogether. Anyway, the purpose of this thread is to gauge the community's thoughts on what we should do for the future of the series. I'll give you my thoughts...

The way I see it, there are three options.

1. Move to FM5 - I know there are some who think this the best option. There definitely seems to be a lot more people playing it not compared to the start of the year. But, in my view, the game is still massively flawed and obviously unfinished. There's hardly any prototypes or GT cars, so we'd end up with a prototype class of R18s and 908s, and GT class of Ferrari, Viper and Corvette (unless we built them from road cars). There is a smaller selection of tracks. The penalty system is a joke, and totally open to abuse, with very little we can do to police it. And then there's the community platform, which is such a big step backwards over FM4, its ridiculous. I mean, no gifting? That's fundamental.

2. Move to Project CARS - I definitely think this game is worth having a serious look at. We won't know until we play it for ourselves whether its suitable for the series. But it definitely looks promising.

3. Stick with FM4 - I still think its the most suitable platform currently available to us. But I wouldn't be posting this if it wasn't without problems. And that problem is the numbers obviously.

I'm trying to keep the current season going until the end. But I'm thinking that we should also look at setting up a mini series on FM5. Start it in about a months time and run maybe a six race series on the American tracks or something. I don't know exactly what format it would take yet, I'm open to ideas and suggestions. I would also need people to help me with it. I won't be able to run it on my own.

So yeah, please post below with your own thoughts on what you think should be done, or anything else relevant.

Thanks.
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I RickyTan I
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because its highly unlikely we will go to PC
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I RickyTan I
Aug 7 2014, 04:51:42 PM
because its highly unlikely we will go to PC
Any reason as to why?
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I don't have a proper gaming PC, so that wouldn't work out in my favor.
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Yeah me either, my PC is decades old. Also, GTC cars will be the other class? Awesome!!!!! I've wanted to race that class but never did!
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Again, everything is in theory and speculative, but yes with the way Project CARS is looking GT3 cars would be the logical choice for a GT class in FLMS in 2015.
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I RickyTan I
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because its highly unlikely we will go to PC
Any reason as to why?
Money.
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I think we should do what Jonny said, "test the waters" with FM5 and run a mini series of maybe 3-5 races. With a couple of viable cars, and see how it is. Then possibly do the same with project cars if there are any doubts about that game after it comes out
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i like the idea of doing a mini-series on fm5 to see how it'd be.

however, project cars seems like a good bet to take a look at when it's released

having real p2 cars again would be amazing...

and a whole new game that nobody knows...meaning we all start out at the same level when it's released

regardless, going back with forza 4 is not feasible
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Aug 9 2014, 09:59:37 PM


regardless, going back with forza 4 is not feasible
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looking forward to driving a real current P2 car
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what im finding interesting is the additon of a GTE aston martin... why would they add a random gte car? meaning do they have more to add?!! :)
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Hi gang, it's been a long time !

I know it's a cost issue for many here but I just want to tell you that both myself, my two sons, and all the Corvette Forum group I've been racing with on FM4 have all sitched to iRacing and it's a ball and really a Challenge !!! The tracks are there, the cars, the series and the policing of incidents !

I too was against computer racing and I resisted until 2 months ago.....but I have to admit this is the best move I have done ! We have our own League series on iRacing and you can do whatever you want with your own series ! On the Corvette Forum we're currently running a GT3 series with the McLaren, the Z4 and the RUF RT-12 Track, which is tuned exactly as a 911 GT3-R !

William (BlackRuckus on FM4) has turned into one of the top 10 GT drivers in the world on iRacing !

http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/off-topic/3501329-ircfs-iracing-corvette-forum-series-season-2-a.html

See ya ! ;)
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might have to invest in a rig once i get settled...
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i have to agree with michel. ive been doing this for months, and with the introduction of real-time driver swaps this sim is getting better and better! :)
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i have to agree with michel. ive been doing this for months, and with the introduction of real-time driver swaps this sim is getting better and better! :)
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Having already dropped money on an Xbox One, There's no way I'd pay out for a gaming computer, Wheel setup, And monthly iRacing subscription (As well as buying cars and tracks). Would rather put that sort of money into a real track car.
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Maynard has a good point, I've also already dumped money into getting and Xbox one and the amount of money it would take to get the whole gaming PC setup would equal close to that of buying a used car and making it a track car for weekends
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Maynard has a good point, I've also already dumped money into getting and Xbox one and the amount of money it would take to get the whole gaming PC setup would equal close to that of buying a used car and making it a track car for weekends
What ?

I have an old 2007 computer and Windows 7 with an upgraded $120 buck video card, an old Driving Force GT wheel and pedal setup mounted on a $40 Wall Mart computer table and a folding patio chair with a pillow in my back !!! Then you might have to invest $200 in tracks and cars to do a proper series, that's it !

Does someone have any idea of what it costs running any kind of race cars, even a pile of junk ? XD
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